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-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message From owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Wed Jul 4 17:09:04 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers-outgoing@kr.freebsd.org Received: by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 54) id DC1DC8F60C; Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:09:02 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from interplus.com (s211-33-105-206.thrunet.ne.kr [211.33.105.206]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62ED8F61E for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:08:59 +0900 (KST) Received: (from root@localhost) by interplus.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00512 for hackers@kr.FreeBSD.org; Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:04:47 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from root) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:04:47 +0900 (KST) From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <200107040804.RAA00512@interplus.com> To: hackers@kr.FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org subscribe hackers xbit@orgio.net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message From owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Wed Jul 4 17:29:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers-outgoing@kr.freebsd.org Received: by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 54) id F2C088F61F; Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:29:45 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from cms1.etri.re.kr (cms1.etri.re.kr [129.254.16.11]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BD48F60C for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:29:31 +0900 (KST) Received: from etri.re.kr (vines-b.etri.re.kr [129.254.191.73]) by cms1.etri.re.kr with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id NT69GAAJ; Wed, 4 Jul 2001 17:23:26 +0900 Message-ID: <3B42D672.C0A3AF1@etri.re.kr> Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 17:40:18 +0900 From: Changhoon Kim Organization: Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Subject: Re: References: <200107040804.RAA00512@interplus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org 등록하시려면 majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org로 메일을 보내세요. hackers@kr.freebsd.org는 메일링 리스트 그 자체입니다. 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(Postfix, from userid 54) id 726608F675; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:50:59 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from localhost (dclient116-28.hispeed.ch [62.2.116.28]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 81DA68F673 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:50:06 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <323672001711685555638@e-wideweb.com> X-EM-Version: 4, 5, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #30C3410514B417038530 From: "Urs Stettler" To: "hackers@kr.FreeBSD.org" Subject: WARNING!!! DON'T READ THIS IF YOU DON'T LIKE MONEY Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:55:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org WOW THIS REALLY WORKS!!! Dear Friend & Future Millionaire: AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV: Making over half a million dollars every 4-5 months from your home for an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars expense one time. THANKS TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET!! ============================================ BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE THE OTHERS WITH IN A YEAR!!! Before you say "BULL" please read the following. This is the letter you have beeen hearing about on the news lately. Due to the populartity of this letter on the inernet , A national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described below, to see if it really can make people money. The show also investigated wheather or not the program was legal. Their findings proved once and for all that there are absolutely NO LAWS prohibiting the participation in the program and if people can follow the simple instrucyions, they are bound to make some mega bucks with only $25 out of pocket cost". DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS ATTANED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER. This is what one had to say:"Thanks to this profitable opportunity, I was approached many times before but each time I pased on it. I am so glad I finally joined to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I recieved total $610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still comming in." Pam Hedland, Fort Lee New Jersey. ============================================ Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around for a long time but I never believed in it. But one day when I recieved this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it. I followed the simple instructions and walaa.....3 weeks later the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but the next two months I made a total of $290,000.00. So far in the past 8 months by re-entering the program, I have made over $710,000.00 and I am playing it again. The key to success in this program is to follow the the simple steps and NOT change anything." More testimonials later but first. =====PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTURE REFERANCE========= $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to 5 months easily and comfortably, please read the following...THEN READ IT AGAIN and AGAIN!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTIONS BELOW AND YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME TRUE, GUARANTEED! INSTRUCTIONS =====Order all 5 reports shown on the list below===== For each report, send $5 CASH ,THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORTYOU ARE ORDERINGand YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON THE ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail problems. ===When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 reports. You will need all 5 reports so that you can save them on your computer and resell them. YOUR TOTAL COST $5 X 5=$25.00. Within a few days you will recieve, via e-mail, each of the five reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1000's of people who will order them from you. Also make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happens to your computer. IMPORTANT-DO NOT alter the names of the peple who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way, other than what is instructed below in step "1 through 6" or you will lose out on the majority of your porfits, Once you understand the way this works you will also see how it does not work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter it, it will NOT work!!! People have tried to put there friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, we have all tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. So DO NOT try to change anything other than what is instructed. Because if you do it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!!! 1....After you have ordered all 5 reports , take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting there fortunes. 2.... Move the name & address in REPORT #4 down To REPORT #5. 3.... MOVE the name & address in REPORT #3 down To REPORT #4. 4.... MOVE the name & address in REPORT #2 down To REPORT #3. 5.... MOVE the name & address in REPORT #1 down To REPORT #2. 6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT #1 Position. PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY! ============================================== **** Take this entire letter ,with the modified list of names, and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well just in case if you loose any data. To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. . There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: METHOD # 1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY ================================================ Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will assume You and those involved send out only 5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing recieve only a 0.2% response (the response could be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2% also many people will send out hundreds of thousands of e-mails instead of only 5,000 each). Continuing with this example , you send out only 5,000 e-mails. With a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for report #1. Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That = 100 people responded and ordered Report #2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 1000 orders for Report #3. Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5 million e- mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report #4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report #5 THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH=$555,000 ( half million). Your total income in this example is: 1.....$50 + 2.....$500 + 3.....$5,000 + 4.....$50.000 + 5.....$500,000.......Grand Total=$555,550.00 NUMBERS DONT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE IT OUT THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY!! ================================================ REMEMBER FRIEND THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDER OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a monment what would happen if everyone or half or even one 4th of those people 100,000 e-mails each or more? There are over 150million people on the internet worldwide and counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! METHOD #2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET ================================================ ADVERTISING ON THE NET IS VERY VERY INEXPENSIVE and there are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free ads on the internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with Method# 1 and add Method #2 as you go along . For every $5 you recieve , all you have to do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. That's it. Always provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with your name and address on it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they recieve the report. ===========AVAILABLE REPORTS======================== ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each Report. Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by rapping it in at least 2 sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the report you are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and postal address. PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW: ================================================ REPORT # 1:" the Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net" Order Report #1 from: U. Stettler Langackerstr. 165 CH-8704 Herrliberg Switzerland ____________________________________________________________ REPORT #2" The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk e-mail on the Net" Order Report #2 from: B. Collins 155 East Beaver Creek Rd. Unit 24, Suite 235 Richmond Hill, Ontario L4B 2N1 Canada ____________________________________________________________ REPORT #3:" Secret to Multilevel marketing on the net" Order Report #3 from: R.Robinson 14612 Friar st.#5 VanNuys CA, 91411 USA _____________________________________________________________ REPORT #4:" How to Become a Millionaire Utilizing MLM & the Net" Order Report #4 from: Randall Williams 401 Stocks Dairy Road Leesburg Georgia 31763 USA ____________________________________________________________ REPORT #5: "How to Send Out One Million e-mails for Free" Order Report #5 from: Dario Va 16541 Blatt Blvd #206 Weston, FL 33326 U.S.A. _____________________________________________________________ $$$$$$$$$YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Follow these guildelines to guarantee your success: ===If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2 weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. ===After you have recieved 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that you should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT #2. If you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails untill you do. ===Once you received 100 or more orders for Report #2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: every time your name is moved down the list, you are placed in front of a different report. You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business!!! ================================================ FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: You have just received information that can give you finiancial freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and just A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT.you can make more money in the next few weeks and months than you ever imagined. follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you have put your name and address in the Report #1 and moved the others to #2.......#5 as instructed above. One of the peole you send this to may send out 100,000 or more e-mails and your name will be on every one of them. Remember though, the more you send out the more potiential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent ITS UP TO YOU NOW! ============MORE TESTIMONIALS======================= "My name is Mitchell, My wife Jody ad I live in Chicago. I am an accountant with a major U.S. Corparation and I make pretty good money. When I received this program I grumbled to Jody about receiving" junk mail". I made fun of the whole thing , spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I "knew" it wouldn't work. 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Should you chose to have your name completely eliminated from our data-base, you can press the respond button and type "remove" on the subject line. -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message From owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Thu Jul 19 10:30:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers-outgoing@kr.freebsd.org Received: by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 54) id 4CA158F687; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:30:38 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from gradius.wdb.co.kr (daemon [211.176.62.31]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B2E8F686 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:30:35 +0900 (KST) Received: (from cjh@localhost) by gradius.wdb.co.kr (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f6J1MpG01683; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 10:22:51 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from cjh@wdb.co.kr) X-Authentication-Warning: gradius.wdb.co.kr: cjh set sender to cjh@wdb.co.kr using -f To: FreeBSD-kr hackers Subject: man tuning Organization: Korea FreeBSD Users Group From: CHOI Junho Date: 19 Jul 2001 10:22:48 +0900 Message-ID: <86vgkpsoev.fsf@gradius.wdb.co.kr> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org 한번 읽어보세요. 중요한 정보가 많이 있네요. http://www.sysadminmag.com/articles/2001/0108/0108q/0108q.htm man tuning 여기있는대로만 따라해도 체감 속도는 많이 나아지는것 같습니다. 특히 IDE write caching... -- +++ Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my employers +++ CHOI Junho [sleeping now] [while sleeping] Korea FreeBSD Users Group Web Data Bank -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message From owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Thu Jul 19 12:06:47 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers-outgoing@kr.freebsd.org Received: by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 54) id AE8848F68A; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:06:44 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from snow.postech.ac.kr (snow.postech.ac.kr [141.223.163.20]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65F88F689 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:06:38 +0900 (KST) Received: from crash.postech.ac.kr (crash.postech.ac.kr [141.223.163.5]) by snow.postech.ac.kr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04230 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:05:50 +0900 (KST) Received: (from year1984@localhost) by crash.postech.ac.kr (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) id MAA29476 for hackers@kr.FreeBSD.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:05:50 +0900 (KST) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:05:50 +0900 From: Kim Ji-Hun To: hackers@kr.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: man tuning Message-ID: <20010719120550.A29423@postech.ac.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org 글을 재밌게 읽기는 했습니다. 이 사이트의 다른글들을 읽어보지는 않아서 오해인듯 싶지만, 글의 저자는 FreeBSD에 대해 그렇게 좋은 입장을 가지고 있지는 않은 것 같더군요. "나는 제대로 테스트 했는데, 왜 귀찮게 구느냐~. 거봐~ 너네들이 시키는 데로 했는데도 메일을 동시에 1500개도 못보내냐?" ^^; 이런 분위기던데요? 제가 분위기 파악 잘못한건가요? 하지만 tuning한거랑 하지 않은거랑 차이가 정말 많이 나네요. -- __ --------------------------------------------------------- (\ /) | Email : year1984@postech.ac.kr o o | Home : http://home.postech.ac.kr/~year1984 ~=*=~ | MSN m : year1984@postech.ac.kr Squeak? | CellP : 011-9570-1984 --------------------------------------------------------- -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message From owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Thu Jul 19 12:23:54 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers-outgoing@kr.freebsd.org Received: by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 54) id 8AAEA8F68B; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:23:48 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from cms1.etri.re.kr (cms1.etri.re.kr [129.254.16.11]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B128F68A for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:23:41 +0900 (KST) Received: from etri.re.kr (vines-b.etri.re.kr [129.254.191.73]) by cms1.etri.re.kr with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 34AMD6ZB; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:16:23 +0900 Message-ID: <3B565550.3F74A2CB@etri.re.kr> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:34:40 +0900 From: Changhoon Kim Organization: Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Subject: Re: man tuning References: <20010719120550.A29423@postech.ac.kr> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BCF424EF69D59D5154C004AC" Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org --------------BCF424EF69D59D5154C004AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 원래 6월호에 실렸던 글은 http://www.sysadminmag.com/newsletters/feature/~01Jun07.051022~.index.htm 에 있습니다. 이 글 나가고 나서, 한동안 몇 군데 mailing list가 난리가 났었습니다. 저자들은 무지하게 욕 먹었구요. 특히, 원래 기사의 결론 부분에 있는 아래의 문장이 압권이었지요. If disk I/O occupies a significant run-time portion of your application, your disk I/O tasks will run up to 10x faster on Linux and Windows 2000, when compared to Solaris, or 6x faster than FreeBSD. 심지어 M$ Windows 2000 보다 엄청 못하다니 !!! 잘 모르는 user들은 충격 먹었을 테고, 잘 아는 hacker들은 저자들의 test 방식을 비웃었지요. 결국, 저자들은 엄청나게 시달리다가 ... 마지 못해 다시 테스트 해서 follow-up 기사를 썼을 겁니다. 그래서, 말투나 느낌이 그랬을 테구요. Chang Kim Ji-Hun wrote: > 글을 재밌게 읽기는 했습니다. 이 사이트의 다른글들을 > 읽어보지는 않아서 오해인듯 싶지만, 글의 저자는 FreeBSD에 > 대해 그렇게 좋은 입장을 가지고 있지는 않은 것 같더군요. > "나는 제대로 테스트 했는데, 왜 귀찮게 구느냐~. 거봐~ > 너네들이 시키는 데로 했는데도 메일을 동시에 1500개도 > 못보내냐?" > > ^^; 이런 분위기던데요? 제가 분위기 파악 잘못한건가요? > > 하지만 tuning한거랑 하지 않은거랑 차이가 정말 많이 > 나네요. > > -- > __ > --------------------------------------------------------- > (\ /) | Email : year1984@postech.ac.kr > o o | Home : http://home.postech.ac.kr/~year1984 > ~=*=~ | MSN m : year1984@postech.ac.kr > Squeak? | CellP : 011-9570-1984 > --------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message -- Changhoon Kim Dept. of Internet Technologies Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute (ETRI) Daejeon, KOREA Tel) +82-42-860-5801 Fax) +82-42-860-5440 *** Man usually avoids attributing cleverness to somebody else, unless it is an enemy. -- Albert Einstein --------------BCF424EF69D59D5154C004AC Content-Type: text/html; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 원래 6월호에 실렸던 글은 http://www.sysadminmag.com/newsletters/feature/~01Jun07.051022~.index.htm 에 있습니다.

이 글 나가고 나서, 한동안 몇 군데 mailing list가 난리가 났었습니다.

저자들은 무지하게 욕 먹었구요.
특히, 원래 기사의 결론 부분에 있는 아래의 문장이 압권이었지요.

If disk I/O occupies a significant run-time portion of your application, your disk I/O tasks will run up to 10x faster on Linux and Windows 2000, when compared to Solaris, or 6x faster than FreeBSD.

심지어 M$ Windows 2000 보다 엄청 못하다니 !!!
잘 모르는 user들은 충격 먹었을 테고, 잘 아는 hacker들은 저자들의 test 방식을 비웃었지요.
결국, 저자들은 엄청나게 시달리다가 ... 마지 못해 다시 테스트 해서
follow-up 기사를 썼을 겁니다. 그래서, 말투나 느낌이 그랬을 테구요.

Chang
 

Kim Ji-Hun wrote:

글을 재밌게 읽기는 했습니다. 이 사이트의 다른글들을
읽어보지는 않아서 오해인듯 싶지만, 글의 저자는 FreeBSD에
대해 그렇게 좋은 입장을 가지고 있지는 않은 것 같더군요.
"나는 제대로 테스트 했는데, 왜 귀찮게 구느냐~. 거봐~
 너네들이 시키는 데로 했는데도 메일을 동시에 1500개도
 못보내냐?"

^^; 이런 분위기던데요? 제가 분위기 파악 잘못한건가요?

하지만 tuning한거랑 하지 않은거랑 차이가 정말 많이
나네요.

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 -- Albert Einstein
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Test Code ========= #include static int test(char *c, unsigned int ui, short si, int i) { printf("[%s][%d][%d][%d]\n", c, ui, si, i); } int main() { test("test", 1, 2, 3); test("oops", 3, 2, 1); return 0; } Case 1> gcc -g test.c ===================== Breakpoint 1, main () at test.c:12 12 test("test", 1, 2, 3); (gdb) s test (c=0x8048595 "test", ui=1, si=10244, i=3) at test.c:5 (gdb) print si $1 = 10244 (gdb) n 6 printf("[%s][%d][%d][%d]\n", c, ui, si, i); (gdb) n [test][1][2][3] 7 } (gdb) print si $2 = 2 Case 2> gcc -O -g test.c ======================== Breakpoint 1, main () at test.c:12 12 test("test", 1, 2, 3); (gdb) s test (c=0x8048581 "test", ui=1, si=2, i=3) at test.c:6 6 printf("[%s][%d][%d][%d]\n", c, ui, si, i); (gdb) print si $1 = 2 (gdb) n Case 3> gcc -ggdb test.c ======================== 12 test("test", 1, 2, 3); (gdb) s test (c=0x28062000 "", ui=0, si=10245, i=671398243) at test.c:5 5 { (gdb) print i $1 = 671398243 (gdb) n 6 printf("[%s][%d][%d][%d]\n", c, ui, si, i); (gdb) n [test][1][2][3] 7 } (gdb) print i $2 = 178531 (gdb) print si $3 = 10245 Case 4> gcc -O -ggdb test.c =========================== Breakpoint 1, main () at test.c:12 12 test("test", 1, 2, 3); (gdb) s test (c=0xbfbff654 "\204\004\b\001", ui=134513954, si=-31359, i=1) at test.c:6 6 printf("[%s][%d][%d][%d]\n", c, ui, si, i); (gdb) print si $1 = -31359 (gdb) n [test][1][2][3] -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message From owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Wed Jul 25 21:16:42 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers-outgoing@kr.freebsd.org Received: by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 54) id 6F5168F692; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:16:40 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from smail-101.hanmail.net (unknown [211.233.29.56]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106C98F692 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:16:37 +0900 (KST) Received: from www15.hanmail.net ([211.32.117.35]) by smail-101.hanmail.net (8.10.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f6PC6jD24641; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:06:45 +0900 Received: (from hanadmin@localhost) by www15.hanmail.net (8.10.0/8.9.1) id f6PC62P24862; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:06:02 +0900 (KST) X-Originating-IP: [211.177.35.3] From: "=?EUC-KR?B?sei/tbDv?=" Organization: =?EUC-KR?B?wM7Hz7Trx9Cxsw==?= To: Subject: =?EUC-KR?B?W7Hksd66uL7IXUJTRCCw6L+tIFRlbGVuZXQgRGVhbW9uIEJ1ZmZl?= =?EUC-KR?B?ciBPdmVyZmxvdyC537v9?= X-Mailer: Daum Web Mailer 1.0 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:06:02 +0900 (KST) Message-Id: <20010725210602.HM.E00000000024sWe@www15.hanmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org BSD 계열의 Telnet Deamon 소스를 사용해온 OS들 에서 잘못된 바운드 체킹으로인해 Remote Buffer Overflow 가 발생했다. 현재 대부분의 BSD 에서 Remote Root Exploit 이 되고 있으며, Solaris 에서도 Telnet Deamon 에서 Buffer Overflow 가 발생하는 것으로 알려져 있다. 자세한 내용은 아래의 링크에서 보세요... http://www.solaris.co.kr/article.php?sid=18&mode=thread&order=0 ================================================== 우리 인터넷, Daum 평생 쓰는 무료 E-mail 주소 한메일넷 지구촌 한글 검색서비스 Daum검색 http://www.daum.net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message From owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Wed Jul 25 22:04:27 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers-outgoing@kr.freebsd.org Received: by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 54) id 407308F694; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:04:13 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from netsgo.com (unknown [211.39.34.137]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C39C8F692 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:03:46 +0900 (KST) Received: from unknown[211.202.17.237] (envelope sender: ) by 211.39.34.137 (TERRACE MAILCENTER) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:03:24 KST +0900 Message-ID: <000e01c11509$b64bbb70$0101a8c0@w2k> From: "KANG ByoungUk" To: References: <20010725210602.HM.E00000000024sWe@www15.hanmail.net> Subject: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?UmU6IFux5LHeuri+yF1CU0QgsOi/rSBUZWxlbmV0IERlYQ==?= =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?bW9uIEJ1ZmZlciBPdmVyZmxvdyC537v9?= Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:59:02 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org BSD중에서 OpenBSD2.9만 안전하군요 신기하네요 ----- Original Message ----- From: "김영곤" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:06 PM Subject: [긴급보안]BSD 계열 Telenet Deamon Buffer Overflow 발생 > > BSD 계열의 Telnet Deamon 소스를 사용해온 OS들 에서 잘못된 바운드 체킹으로인해 Remote Buffer Overflow 가 발생했다. 현재 대부분의 BSD 에서 Remote Root Exploit 이 되고 있으며, Solaris 에서도 Telnet Deamon 에서 Buffer Overflow 가 발생하는 것으로 알려져 있다. > > 자세한 내용은 아래의 링크에서 보세요... > > http://www.solaris.co.kr/article.php?sid=18&mode=thread&order=0 > > > > > > ================================================== > 우리 인터넷, Daum > 평생 쓰는 무료 E-mail 주소 한메일넷 > 지구촌 한글 검색서비스 Daum검색 > http://www.daum.net > -- > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message > -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message From owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Wed Jul 25 23:33:44 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers-outgoing@kr.freebsd.org Received: by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 54) id B676B8F694; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 23:33:41 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from xocah.org (s211-49-53-211.thrunet.ne.kr [211.49.53.211]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021088F610 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 23:33:22 +0900 (KST) Received: (from lara@localhost) by xocah.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6PEXMG58577 for hackers@kr.freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 23:33:22 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from lara) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 23:33:22 +0900 From: hosang yoon To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Subject: Re: =?euc-kr?B?W7Hksd66uL7IXUJTRCCw6L+tIFRlbGVuZXQgRGVhbW9uIEJ1ZmZlciBPdmVy?= =?euc-kr?B?ZmxvdyC537v9?= Message-ID: <20010725233322.A58318@xocah.org> References: <20010725210602.HM.E00000000024sWe@www15.hanmail.net> <000e01c11509$b64bbb70$0101a8c0@w2k> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000e01c11509$b64bbb70$0101a8c0@w2k>; from aneurysm@netsgo.com on Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 09:59:02PM +0900 Organization: x-of-charm-and-honesty PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCFC8D3FA PGP-Fingerprint: FCD2 3E42 5DF1 AC68 4C29 DDD2 684A 3438 CFC8 D3FA Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =BD=C5=B1=E2=C7=CF=B1=E4=BF=E4. =B3=EB=B7=C2=C7=D1 =B9=D9=B0=DA=C1=F6=BF=E4. =B0=BC=B3=D7=B5=E9(OpenBSD core), OS source =B8=A6 line by line, audit =C7= =D1=B4=D9=C0=DD=BE=C6=BF=E4. -.- (audit =C7=C1=B7=CE=B1=D7=B7=A5 =BE=B2=B4=C2=B0=D4 =BE=C6=B4=CF=B6=F3, =B4= =AB=C0=B8=B7=CE =C1=F7=C1=A2!) @ KANG ByoungUk wrote: : BSD=C1=DF=BF=A1=BC=AD OpenBSD2.9=B8=B8 =BE=C8=C0=FC=C7=CF=B1=BA=BF=E4 :=20 : =BD=C5=B1=E2=C7=CF=B3=D7=BF=E4 :=20 :=20 :=20 : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "=B1=E8=BF=B5=B0=EF" : To: : Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:06 PM : Subject: [=B1=E4=B1=DE=BA=B8=BE=C8]BSD =B0=E8=BF=AD Telenet Deamon Buffer= Overflow =B9=DF=BB=FD :=20 :=20 : > : > BSD =B0=E8=BF=AD=C0=C7 Telnet Deamon =BC=D2=BD=BA=B8=A6 =BB=E7=BF=EB=C7= =D8=BF=C2 OS=B5=E9 =BF=A1=BC=AD =C0=DF=B8=F8=B5=C8 =B9=D9=BF=EE=B5=E5 : =C3=BC=C5=B7=C0=B8=B7=CE=C0=CE=C7=D8 Remote Buffer Overflow =B0=A1 =B9=DF= =BB=FD=C7=DF=B4=D9. =C7=F6=C0=E7 =B4=EB=BA=CE=BA=D0=C0=C7 BSD =BF=A1=BC=AD : Remote Root Exploit =C0=CC =B5=C7=B0=ED =C0=D6=C0=B8=B8=E7, Solaris =BF= =A1=BC=AD=B5=B5 Telnet Deamon =BF=A1=BC=AD : Buffer Overflow =B0=A1 =B9=DF=BB=FD=C7=CF=B4=C2 =B0=CD=C0=B8=B7=CE =BE=CB= =B7=C1=C1=AE =C0=D6=B4=D9. : > : > =C0=DA=BC=BC=C7=D1 =B3=BB=BF=EB=C0=BA =BE=C6=B7=A1=C0=C7 =B8=B5=C5=A9= =BF=A1=BC=AD =BA=B8=BC=BC=BF=E4... : > : > http://www.solaris.co.kr/article.php?sid=3D18&mode=3Dthread&order=3D0 --=20 % cat ~/.signature nothing to advertise --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7XtixaEo0OM/I0/oRAo3pAJ4iVvjKH5zfwL07aepfjTg1pseBoACfQv3R 7MptS25zudHAddLxw9S6gZ8= =W86l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE-- -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message From owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Thu Jul 26 10:23:05 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers-outgoing@kr.freebsd.org Received: by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 54) id 2273B8F6F6; 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To: References: <20010725210602.HM.E00000000024sWe@www15.hanmail.net> <000e01c11509$b64bbb70$0101a8c0@w2k> Subject: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?UmU6IFux5LHeuri+yF1CU0QgsOi/rSBUZWxlbmV0IERlYQ==?= =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?bW9uIEJ1ZmZlciBPdmVyZmxvdyC537v9?= Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 09:22:19 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org 

OpenBSD2.9 만 안전하다는 것은 OpenBSD core 들은 이 Exploit 를 알았다는거
아닌가요?
그러니까 2.9부터 안전한거 아닌가요... ㅡ.ㅡ;;


----- Original Message -----
From: "KANG ByoungUk" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [긴급보안]BSD 계열 Telenet Deamon Buffer Overflow 발생


> BSD중에서 OpenBSD2.9만 안전하군요
>
> 신기하네요
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "김영곤" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:06 PM
> Subject: [긴급보안]BSD 계열 Telenet Deamon Buffer Overflow 발생
>
>
> >
> > BSD 계열의 Telnet Deamon 소스를 사용해온 OS들 에서 잘못된 바운드
> 체킹으로인해 Remote Buffer Overflow 가 발생했다. 현재 대부분의 BSD 에서
> Remote Root Exploit  이 되고 있으며, Solaris 에서도 Telnet Deamon 에서
> Buffer Overflow 가 발생하는 것으로 알려져 있다.
> >
> > 자세한 내용은 아래의 링크에서 보세요...
> >
> > http://www.solaris.co.kr/article.php?sid=18&mode=thread&order=0
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ==================================================
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Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:46:22 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from arena.openbird.com (arena.openbird.com [211.181.239.20]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151148F61B; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:46:16 +0900 (KST) Received: from nobreak ([211.211.1.116]) by arena.openbird.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f6TFij762292; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:44:45 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from nobreak@hongik.com) From: "Seung-young Kim" To: Cc: Subject: telnetd의 buffer overflow 버그에 대한 패치 프로그램 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 00:45:58 +0900 Message-ID: <014a01c11845$90678d00$7401d3d3@openbird.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org 안녕하십니까. 얼마전에 FreeBSD 시스템의 telnetd 보안문제가 발표 되었습니다. 사용자 분들께서 패치에 어려움이 있으시다는 문의가 있어, 패치를 간편하게 할 수 있는 스크립트를 제공하오니 긴급히 패치하여 안전하게 사용하시기 바랍니다. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE, FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE 사용자 분들은 다음 패치 프로그램을 다운로드 받아 압축을 해제한 후 patch.sh 를 수행하십시요. ftp://ftp.kr.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-kr/misc/freebsd43-telnetd-crypto-patch. tar.gz -- Seung-young Kim -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message From owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Mon Jul 30 01:40:55 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers-outgoing@kr.freebsd.org Received: by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 54) id E021A8F633; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 01:40:44 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from sv.co.kr (unknown [211.106.127.162]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6963B8F61B for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 01:40:36 +0900 (KST) Received: (qmail 24248 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jul 2001 16:33:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO harrison) (61.74.172.86) by ns.sv.co.kr with SMTP; 29 Jul 2001 16:33:38 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c1184b$c04a6780$e4e3fea9@harrison> From: "harrison" To: References: <000801c1183f$d57fe6e0$6155f3d3@cintel.co.kr> Subject: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?UmU6IMH6ua7Hz7OqLi4u?= Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 01:30:16 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 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Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:13:13 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from holywar (holywar.net [211.232.152.2]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55AE8F60C for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:13:08 +0900 (KST) Received: from localhost (hollywar@localhost) by holywar (8.11.4/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6U2CkY15042; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:12:46 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from hollywar@holywar.net) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:12:46 +0900 (KST) From: JunSeon Oh To: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?yLLC+bz4?= Cc: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Subject: Re: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wfq5rsfPs6ouLi4=?= In-Reply-To: <000801c1183f$d57fe6e0$6155f3d3@cintel.co.kr> Message-ID: My-PGP-Key: http://www.holywar.net/~hollywar/holywar_publickey.txt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org smp 는 분명 병렬 처리 입니다. 똑같은 일을 하나 처리함에 있어서 더 빠를리는 절대 없을것입니다. 그러나 그 일을 동시에 2개씩 돌렸을때 SMP 의 성능이 나타나는 것입니다. top 상에서 2개의 process 가 각각 100% 인.. 총 200% 를 소비할때 cpu idle 이 0% 가 되는 현상 역시 보실수 있습니다. setiathome 같은거... 2개 돌려보세요. Single 인 곳이랑 SMP 인곳이랑요.. 단 cpu clock 역시 같은 환경에서 테스트 해보시기 바랍니다. ------------------------------------------------------------- Software Development Team / Manager / JunSeon Oh Email : holywar@holynet.co.kr Internet total solutions - holynet (http://www.holywar.net) ------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, [ks_c_5601-1987] 황찬순 wrote: |혹시 freebsd4.3에서 두얼cpu를 쓰는데....퍼포먼스가 오히려 원시피유일때보다 않나오는 이유를 알수있나요...? |그리고 혹시 smp기능 을 튜닝하면 성능이 나아지려는지... |나아진다면 튜닝방법좀 알려주시면 안되나요....넘 답답해서...부탁드립니다. | -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message From owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Mon Jul 30 12:33:00 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers-outgoing@kr.freebsd.org Received: by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 54) id 716BD8F620; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:32:27 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from smail-104.hanmail.net (unknown [211.233.29.59]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057478F61E for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:32:05 +0900 (KST) Received: from www6.hanmail.net ([211.32.117.26]) by smail-104.hanmail.net (8.10.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f6U3DlC21579; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:13:47 +0900 Received: (from hanadmin@localhost) by www6.hanmail.net (8.10.0/8.9.1) id f6U3D1721076; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:13:01 +0900 (KST) X-Originating-IP: [210.183.235.19] From: "Byung Eui Kwag" Organization: To: Cc: Subject: =?EUC-KR?B?UmU6IMH6ua7Hz7OqLi4uIA==?= X-Mailer: Daum Web Mailer 1.0 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:13:01 +0900 (KST) Message-Id: <20010730121301.HM.t0000000000GcUt@www6.hanmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org SMP를 사용하면 각 프로세스별로 여러개의 CPU가 하나씩 분담하여 실행됩니다. 하지만 하나의 프로세스는 하나의 CPU가 담당하지요. TOP명령으로 프로세스를 살펴보면 프로세스를 수행중인 CPU번호가 보입니다. 결국 단일 프로세스환경에선 SMP라 할지라도 별 잇점이 없다는 말이 되지요. 하지만 서버프로그램이란 보통 다중프로세서(혹은 다중 쓰레드)로 운영되는게 일반적이므로, 다중 프로세스 환경에서 본다면 분명 잇점이 있습니다. 그런데, 제 경험상으론 대역폭은 낮은 I/O때문에 듀얼이 별 소용 없어지더군요. P-III 800듀얼을 썼었습니다만, I/O 블럭킹 때문에 CPU 실행율이 30% 이상 올라간적이 없습니다. 지금은 그래서 하나 빼내 새로운 한대를 구성해서 두대로 돌리고 있습니다만. 정말 I/O 의전도가 낮고 많은 CPU연산을 필요로 하는 환경에서는 SMP가 효과가 있을텐데요, 일반 웹서나 FTP같이 I/O에 많은 의존을 하는 환경에선 SMP보다는 단일 CPU로 서버를 두대 만들어 돌리는게 훨씬 좋더군요. 갑자기 생각난 질문입니다만, BSD에선 I/O 대역폭을 중심으로 하드웨어를 구성한다면 어떤 구성이 좋을까요? ================================================== 우리 인터넷, Daum 평생 쓰는 무료 E-mail 주소 한메일넷 지구촌 한글 검색서비스 Daum검색 http://www.daum.net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message From owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Mon Jul 30 13:26:49 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers-outgoing@kr.freebsd.org Received: by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 54) id BFA418F63B; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:26:10 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from netsgo.com (unknown [211.39.34.137]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C3928F620 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:26:02 +0900 (KST) Received: from unknown[211.202.17.237] (envelope sender: ) by 211.39.34.137 (TERRACE MAILCENTER) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:25:19 KST +0900 Message-ID: <000c01c118af$264e65a0$0101a8c0@w2k> From: "KANG ByoungUk" To: References: <20010730121301.HM.t0000000000GcUt@www6.hanmail.net> Subject: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?UmU6IMH6ua7Hz7OqLi4uIA==?= Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:21:47 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ks_c_5601-1987" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org SMP보다는 Single CPU에 보다 빠른 SCSI와 보다 더 많은 Memory를 사용하는것이 더 효율적일것 같습니다 IDE를 쓰면 아무리 DMA라 하더라도 CPU점유율은 높고 operation time은 길어지니 꽝이고... 서버에서는 당연히 SCSI라고 가정한다면 할수없이 고가이더라도 좀더 속도가 빠른 SCSI를 쓰는수밖에는... 요즘은 160까지 나온거 같던데... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Byung Eui Kwag" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: Re: 질문하나... > SMP를 사용하면 각 프로세스별로 여러개의 CPU가 하나씩 분담하여 실행됩니다. > > 하지만 하나의 프로세스는 하나의 CPU가 담당하지요. > > TOP명령으로 프로세스를 살펴보면 프로세스를 수행중인 CPU번호가 보입니다. > > 결국 단일 프로세스환경에선 SMP라 할지라도 별 잇점이 없다는 말이 되지요. > > 하지만 서버프로그램이란 보통 다중프로세서(혹은 다중 쓰레드)로 운영되는게 일반적이므로, 다중 프로세스 환경에서 본다면 분명 잇점이 있습니다. > > 그런데, 제 경험상으론 대역폭은 낮은 I/O때문에 듀얼이 별 소용 없어지더군요. > > P-III 800듀얼을 썼었습니다만, I/O 블럭킹 때문에 CPU 실행율이 30% 이상 올라간적이 없습니다. > > 지금은 그래서 하나 빼내 새로운 한대를 구성해서 두대로 돌리고 있습니다만. > > 정말 I/O 의전도가 낮고 많은 CPU연산을 필요로 하는 환경에서는 SMP가 효과가 있을텐데요, 일반 웹서나 FTP같이 I/O에 많은 의존을 하는 환경에선 SMP보다는 단일 CPU로 서버를 두대 만들어 돌리는게 훨씬 좋더군요. > > > 갑자기 생각난 질문입니다만, > BSD에선 I/O 대역폭을 중심으로 하드웨어를 구성한다면 어떤 구성이 좋을까요? > > ================================================== > 우리 인터넷, Daum > 평생 쓰는 무료 E-mail 주소 한메일넷 > 지구촌 한글 검색서비스 Daum검색 > http://www.daum.net > -- > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message > -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message From owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Mon Jul 30 15:19:50 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers-outgoing@kr.freebsd.org Received: by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 54) id 1C6E28F63E; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:19:48 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from holywar (holywar.net [211.232.152.2]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45268F63B for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:19:38 +0900 (KST) Received: from localhost (hollywar@localhost) by holywar (8.11.4/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6U6JFp62348; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:19:15 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from hollywar@holywar.net) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:19:15 +0900 (KST) From: JunSeon Oh To: Byung Eui Kwag Cc: hcscam@thrunet.com, hackers@kr.freebsd.org Subject: =?EUC-KR?B?UmU6IMH6ua7Hz7OqLi4uIA==?= In-Reply-To: <20010730121301.HM.t0000000000GcUt@www6.hanmail.net> Message-ID: My-PGP-Key: http://www.holywar.net/~hollywar/holywar_publickey.txt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org 저 역시 동감입니다. 무분별한 SMP 는 사회의 혼란과 사치를 초래합니다. ( 무슨.... 영화 보기 전에 광고 같네요. --;;;; ) 그러나 분명히 IO 에서 바틀넥이 생기기 이전에 CPU 사용율이 많은 ( IRCD 라든지 방송데몬 이라든지.. 네트웍 자원과 CPU 를 이용하는 select 혹은 thread 기반의 데몬 프로그램들 ) 서버에서 SMP 는 정말 유용합니다. :) 또한.. 컴파일 시에도 make -j4 world 등의 동시 프로세스 수행으로 컴파일 시간을 40% 가량 단축시킬수도 있고요... 정말 서비스에 따라서 SMP 를 100% 활용할수도 있는가 하면... IO 에서 블러킹 되어서 CPU 는 노는일이 허다한 경우도 있죠. 아구.. 요건 그냥 잡담이었습니다. ------------------------------------------------------------- Software Development Team / Manager / JunSeon Oh Email : holywar@holynet.co.kr Internet total solutions - holynet (http://www.holywar.net) ------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Byung Eui Kwag wrote: |SMP를 사용하면 각 프로세스별로 여러개의 CPU가 하나씩 분담하여 실행됩니다. | |하지만 하나의 프로세스는 하나의 CPU가 담당하지요. | |TOP명령으로 프로세스를 살펴보면 프로세스를 수행중인 CPU번호가 보입니다. | |결국 단일 프로세스환경에선 SMP라 할지라도 별 잇점이 없다는 말이 되지요. | |하지만 서버프로그램이란 보통 다중프로세서(혹은 다중 쓰레드)로 운영되는게 일반적이므로, 다중 프로세스 환경에서 본다면 분명 잇점이 있습니다. | |그런데, 제 경험상으론 대역폭은 낮은 I/O때문에 듀얼이 별 소용 없어지더군요. | |P-III 800듀얼을 썼었습니다만, I/O 블럭킹 때문에 CPU 실행율이 30% 이상 올라간적이 없습니다. | |지금은 그래서 하나 빼내 새로운 한대를 구성해서 두대로 돌리고 있습니다만. | |정말 I/O 의전도가 낮고 많은 CPU연산을 필요로 하는 환경에서는 SMP가 효과가 있을텐데요, 일반 웹서나 FTP같이 I/O에 많은 의존을 하는 환경에선 SMP보다는 단일 CPU로 서버를 두대 만들어 돌리는게 훨씬 좋더군요. | | |갑자기 생각난 질문입니다만, |BSD에선 I/O 대역폭을 중심으로 하드웨어를 구성한다면 어떤 구성이 좋을까요? | |================================================== |우리 인터넷, Daum |평생 쓰는 무료 E-mail 주소 한메일넷 |지구촌 한글 검색서비스 Daum검색 |http://www.daum.net |-- |To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org |with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message | -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message From owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Mon Jul 30 15:23:06 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers-outgoing@kr.freebsd.org Received: by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix, from userid 54) id F2A6B8F63F; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:22:57 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from holywar (holywar.net [211.232.152.2]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC618F63E for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:22:56 +0900 (KST) Received: from localhost (hollywar@localhost) by holywar (8.11.4/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6U6MWJ62957; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:22:32 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from hollywar@holywar.net) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:22:32 +0900 (KST) From: JunSeon Oh To: Byung Eui Kwag Cc: hcscam@thrunet.com, hackers@kr.freebsd.org Subject: =?EUC-KR?B?UmU6IMH6ua7Hz7OqLi4uIA==?= In-Reply-To: <20010730121301.HM.t0000000000GcUt@www6.hanmail.net> Message-ID: My-PGP-Key: http://www.holywar.net/~hollywar/holywar_publickey.txt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Byung Eui Kwag wrote: |정말 I/O 의전도가 낮고 많은 CPU연산을 필요로 하는 환경에서는 SMP가 효과가 있을텐데요, 일반 웹서나 FTP같이 I/O에 많은 의존을 하는 환경에선 SMP보다는 단일 CPU로 서버를 두대 만들어 돌리는게 훨씬 좋더군요. | | |갑자기 생각난 질문입니다만, |BSD에선 I/O 대역폭을 중심으로 하드웨어를 구성한다면 어떤 구성이 좋을까요? | 글을 다 못보고 또 적게 되네요... CPU 는 놀고 IO 에서 문제가 생긴다면, 차라리 하드를 여러개를 달고 vinum 을 이용한 stripe 구성을 해 보십시오. 하드 두개를 vinum raid 를 이용하여 stripe 로 구성하면.. 속도 향상은 약... 195% 정도 있습니다. 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Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:57:54 +0900 (KST) Delivered-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Received: from mars.innovay.com (ns.innovay.net [203.255.151.11]) by daemon.kr.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D983E8F65E for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:57:45 +0900 (KST) Received: from teatime.org (VANAHEIM.Innovay.com [203.255.151.203]) (authenticated) by mars.innovay.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6V6gbo27272 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:42:37 +0900 Message-ID: <3B6648F8.3040300@teatime.org> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:58:16 +0900 From: Soonmyung Hong Organization: Teatime User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010709 X-Accept-Language: ko, ja, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org Subject: squid References: <001501c11903$c8ee47e0$1c55f3d3@cintel.co.kr> <02bb01c11905$fdcd36e0$87cacbd3@hananet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hackers@kr.freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hackers@kr.freebsd.org squid에는 commloops라는 branch가 있어서 이것이 kqueue(2) 인터페이스를 지원합니다. FreeBSD를 캐쉬 서버로 쓴다면 이것을 시험해 보시는 것도 괜찮으리라고 봅니다. 참고로 commloops는 solaris의 /dev/poll인터페이스도 지원합니다. linux의 /dev/poll은 아직까지 robust하지 않은 것 같더군요. -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@kr.FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe hackers" in the BODY of the message